Thursday, September 3, 2009
Blog 3, Prompt 2
Language Controversies
Dr. Hughes
Woof-Woof! Meow! What exactly do these words mean? Throughout childhood I fully believed that my pets could understand me. I would often say to them, “Woof-woof-awrf,” and they would look up at me and tilt their head to the side. This look was what I thought to be a look of understanding. Come to find out, I was totally and completely wrong.
Now that I am older and know better than to believe movies like Dr. Dolittle, I understand that animals cannot really tell what you’re saying. They more or less just know your tones and gestures. I might even go as far to say that once they have been trained they might know a couple of key words or sounds. There is no doubt that trained dogs know what to do when their owner says sit, lie down, or roll over, but if this dog is wild it will have no form of communication with the human. In the article, Yule, it states, “Animal communication seems to be designed exclusively for this moment, here and now” (pg.4). This is saying that animals can not tell you about past events that have occurred in their lives. Just like Lassie, she could tell you when little Timmy was in trouble, but not tell you about her past adventures. Even though our pets lack displacement and cannot verbally express themselves to you they can still get their point across. Scooter, a canine friend, will go to the door when he has to go to the bathroom, stand by his food bowl and whine when he wants food, and will bark at whoever comes into the driveway. Do we not count these as ways of communicating? He is smart enough to know that if he has an accident in the house he will get punished, and he knows that if he is hungry he should not only go to the food bowl but also get his owners attention.
No, I do not believe animals know everything we say. If they did we probably would not have them as our pets. I do believe however that once they are trained they are able to pick up gestures and certain words that we say.
Dane Knudsen Blog 3
Many people believe that the animals we live with are able to understand us and communicate with us. This belief has developed due to the bond that is shared between owner and pet. It becomes more than just one of master and animal, but rather of friendship and love. I can attest to this statement, being the owner of four dogs myself.
The argument against this higher intelligence of domesticated animals is that animals actually can’t comprehend the words that are spoken to them, but rather the tone and the gestures used. I agree with this belief, because animals do respond to the tone you use rather than the word spoken. For example, if a dog is doing something it shouldn’t be, and the master says the word “no” in a high, praiseful voice, the dog won’t stop what it is doing. If the word “no” is spoken loud and forcefully, the dog will sense that something it is doing is wrong and will stop. The same works for our dogs, they recognize the word “treat” when said in a particular tone. We could use the words “feet, peat, meat, beat, or wheat” said in the same tone and the dogs will come running because they think that tone means that they will receive a dog treat. This has been scientifically tested by Ivan Pavlov, who’s experiment conditioned dogs to salivate every time they heard the ringing of a bell.
I honestly do believe that pets have a very well developed sense of understanding and communication with their owners. I have grown to trust and love my dog, Elsa, more than anyone else in this entire world. I feel like she will never betray me, and that she is always there for me, no matter what I do. In defense of my belief, after being dropped off and moved in to my new college life, my mom gave me a call. They had just gotten home after a long day on the road, and she told me that everything was good at home, except that Elsa was walking around looking for me. She had seemed distressed that I wasn’t there, and kept looking in my room for me. The behavior Elsa showed can not be disregarded as a higher understanding. She knew that something was wrong, and this comes down to the love and bond that has developed between us.
The first way to get your point across to your pet would be through the tone of your voice. An animal, as well as humans, have a pretty good understanding of when someone or something may be angry about something. Or just complimenting them on something good that they have done. For instance, your dog may have gotten into the trash and you yell at it. Although the dog can not respond verbally, he instantly knows that it has done wrong. He knows you are not pleased with what he has done and responds by sticking his tail between his legs, and appears to be frightened. Solely from the angry tone in your voice. On the other hand, you may have a different approach of disciplining the animal. You might attempt to try and talk thinks out with it in a calm, sympathetic tone. In this approach, however, the animal is thinking that it has done something good and you are rewarding him. Thus, he is more likely to doing it again to receive the same reward. This is evidence that the animal does not really know what you are saying to it. It just knows that you are not happy, or are happy, by the way you pronounce it. The same is true for a dog or any other animal. It will let you know when you get a little closer than the animal likes and it lets out a very deep, strong bark; warning you to get back.
The other way to communicate with your pet, or your pet commmunicate with you, would be through your gestures. Gestures, similar to your tone, is generally understood quite well by animals. This can be seen when either disciplining your pet or approaching it in a slow, peaceful manner to pet it. For example, a neighborhood dog is standing in your yard. You take the more aggressive approach to try and scare the animal off. It works. Would this have worked if you took the slow, peaceful way of coming upon the animal? I think not. The animal, however, can also scare a human off by running at them in a threatening way. Also, slowly walking towards the human in the hopes that it will get his head scratched.
In conclusion, although there is no real way to communicate between an animal and a human. There are ways to get each one's point across to the other. This is through the tone of voice, also by the way one approaches the other.
Pet Communication
Wednesday, September 2, 2009
Blog 3
Blog Prompt 3: Human and Animal Communication
Due Sept. 4, 2009
Write between 300-600 words in formal standard English on one of the following subjects. Feel free to cite the texts, or the clips that we watched, as you make your points.
1. Which of the five properties of language described in Yule do you believe to be the most important in differentiating between human and animal communication?
2. Many people believe the animals that we live with -- our pets -- understand us and communicate with us. Do you believe that a domestic animal is capable of more or less communicative power than what is described in this chapter? You might consider issues of tone, gesture, or behavior -- Yule does not give much attention to these aspects of communication.
Friday, August 28, 2009
Carol's Blog 2
Pinker discussed the many different facts as to how language is used everywhere. Theodore Dalrymple discussed many of the facts about which he did not agree with Dr. Pinker. No matter whether a person is supposed to or not, people will find a way to speak in their own language. In Dr. Pinker’s argument, he says how there are many different ways a person will find ways to communicate.
Two ways people communicate is through spoken language and body language. Although people are not supposed to, they sometimes make gestures to tell another how they feel about that certain person. Dr. Pinker discusses a situation in Nicaragua how at a deaf school, the children were not allowed to sign and had to only read lips. It was frustrating to the children so they decided on the school bus and on the playground they would make up a language of their own so they would not get into trouble.The children would become upset at the fact that they were not allowed to sign, were forced to lip read and master the skill of lip reading. It was completely wrong of the parents and the educators to force them to learn the skill of lip reading because if the children are unable to understand the conversation, they would become frustrated.
Most people would favor on the side of the children because they feel sorry for them. Although the children were frustrated that they were unable to communicate, the teachers and parents were trying to help them in the long run by having them learn how to communicate with hearing and speaking people. The skill of learning how to lip read is one that would help the children so it would be less frustrating in the future. If there was only one deaf person at a school, that one person would want to be able to communicate his or her feelings even though they are unable to speak.
Thursday, August 27, 2009
I can relate to Dalrymple
Question 2
I agree with Dalrymple in disagreeing with Pinker’s ideas as I believe that it would be ignorant to say that the child has been able to master sign language instinctly. Dalrymple says that, “Everyone ought to have the opportunity to transcend the limitations of his linguistic environment if it is a restricted one, which means that he ought to have a few school arms in his childhood..... It is fatuous to expect that the most complex of human faculties requires no special training to develop to its highest power”. This makes me think that it would be impossible for a young child to master such a complex language without specific training from their parents and teachers. Dalrymple reinforces this idea by saying, “An intelligent man who can make no constructive use of his intelligence is likely to make a destructive and self destructive use of it”. This means that without the nurturing of language from one’s external environment; for example parents, teachers, etc, we would never be able to construct language which is easy to understand and follow. This is why I believe Pinker simply can not be correct in his ideas and views as he is very one minded and is reluctant to believe our language is affected and improved by learning from others.
Language Controversies - Blog 2
The term "standard English" may have a few different meanings to different people. What is standard? If something is considered standard, by whom's definition are we going by? When thinking about this, I think about the term "normal" as well. What is considered normal, and by whom's defintion is it from? There is a difference also between speaking and writing. I do not speak in perfect, "standard English" with my friends or family, but when writing for and important paper assigned that will have great significance and importance, I tend to be more formal and practice a higher level or writing skills and vocabulary. Does this make me a hypocrite too? We sometimes tend to cater to the audience around us, making it easier for others to understand. For instance, the way I speak to my three year old niece is a lot different from the way I speak my eighteen year old friend, and the way I speak to my friend might be slightly different than the way I speak to my mom. When I speak to my niece, I need to stoop down onto her level of understand and her comprehension of vocabulary words. I will be more respectful and a little more proper when talking to my mom or older authority than I will be when communicating with one of my really good friends. Pinker is just trying to write in a way that he feels will be most effective in getting his points and ideas across to his readers.
Jack dowdell blog post 2 topic 1
Dalrymple’s statement that Pinker doesn’t really believe a thing he says is an obviously false one. Pinker would not take the time to conduct the research or write the essay if he did not care. Rather, the statement seems to be made in order to show a hole in Pinker’s logic.
Dalrymple is because Pinker writes in a tone pleasing to schoolmarms. This is because the basis of this essay is that we all can, without education, speak in elegant complex language within our own dialect. In almost a parallel to what the writing is about, the writing itself is clear, concise, and elegant. The elegancy is what most likely upset Dalrymple. Many reasons have been suggested for why Pinker wrote that piece the way he did however. One thing we mentioned in class and certainly deserves consideration is the audience intended. This essay was meant for people who spoke the standard English dialect. How could we learn about the equality of the dialects and the other important points in his essay if we could not understand him.
Also, Pinker made arguments pointing out the equality of these languages. However, he never made a single point that they were appropriate in todays’ society. His purpose was to express their equality from a technical standpoint and to stop discrimination against these people on the pure basis of their speech patterns. In know way did he state that they should be accepted as a standard.
Another thing to consider is that Dalrymple is a British physician. This means that most likely he speaks near perfect English as many British people do. On top of this he is a physician which means he is highly educated. This is a man who has dedicated quite a bit of time to speaking and writing properly. Any paper that comes straight out and says that these lesser dialects in his mind are now alright is bound to rub him wrong.
Dalrymple and Pinker represent opposite ends of a spectrum. Pinker the more liberal welcoming party and Dalrymple in the conservative preserve the old writing. I believe both are necessary. As the world grows different dialects will spring up and looking down on them is not an option anymore. However abandoning our language is not an option either. Between the two opinions i believe balance can be struck
Blog Prompt 1
English 1101 – “Language Controversies”
Dr. Hughes
Blog 2
What is Standard English? Does it depend on where one is living? The question Pinker is answering is that there really is not a standard way to speak. Webster’s Dictionary defines Standard English as, “The English that with respect to spelling, grammar, pronunciation, and vocabulary is substantially uniform though not devoid of regional differences, that is well established by usage in the formal and informal speech and writing of the educated and that is widely recognized as acceptable wherever English is spoken and understood.” This form of English makes people seem educated and can be intimidating. Pinker believes that there is no “right” way to speak. Everyone has their own dialect and there is no need to change. No one dialect is grammatically wrong; they just have different words and rules. An example Pinker uses is, “…people in some regions of the United States refer to a certain insect as a dragonfly and people in other regions refer to it as a darning needle…”(pg.28) Dragonfly would be what the majority of the population would say was correct, but could darning needle not be correct as well? Another example is when he is talking to Larry, a man who spoke American Black English, and we see that the only difference is the means by which contractions are used. People tend to judge when they hear someone different from them speak. They automatically jump to conclusions and view their dialect better than others.
Even though Pinker’s articles were written in proper, grammatically correct English, one should not be so quick to call him a hypocrite. Just because he chooses to use this so called Standard English in his writings does not mean that he believes all other modes of speaking are wrong. His argument throughout the article is not that Standard English is wrong but that it’s not the only “right” way to speak. Pinker is writing in this form because he is gearing it toward an audience that would be more accepting of this dialect rather that one written in Black English or slang. He also might have been raised to speak this certain type of English while others might have been taught differently, but he is open and accepting to how language constantly changes. Where as Dalrymple seem to laugh at other dialects in his article, "The Gift of Language."